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  • Norris February 2012 +1 -1
    I have been a supporter of the Occupy Movement since its inception, but i was quickly discouraged by the fact that there is no real direction or demands (or the fact that there are so many misaligned demands between the factions/cities).

    I understand that everyone wants equality, fair representation by the media, the sharing of wealth (at least to the point of sustaining a middle class) but we need to wake up and realize, as much attention as Occupy has gotten...NOTHING HAS CHANGED. NOTHING WILL CHANGE. Every day the middle class is being destroyed, more Americans are on food stamps, the debt of every 99% American is still being depleted. As much as it is Wall streets fault, I am saddened to see that the Occupy Movement is misunderstood. Yes Wall street is full of money driven a$$holes, but thats not what is ruining America! Yes regulate them some more, maybe get them to 'share the wealth', but the real G**da*n reason 1/4 americans is living in poverty is an institution called the federal reserve bank. Don't let the name fool you my friends, it is only "federal" in name. It is owned by elitists who make wall street stockbrokers look like oliver twist. Actually. It is the reason we are put into perpetual debt. And it is the problem. THE PROBLEM. ONE AND ONLY. Get rid of the FED...and Americans will once again be free from debt on their own money (aka slavery). Yes we are slaves. Briefly explained (start researching yourselves) what the FED does is print money out of thin air. IN the old says before the FED, money was printed on the amount of gold a country had (in a few instances silver) as then that money (which is useless paper) was backed by a physical commodity (asset). The FED act, an act that was sneaked into our congress at the beginnign of the 20th century when most of congress was away with their families during christmas, created this central bank that was owned by PRIVATE OWNERS and would print money for the local banks in the united states out of thin air. Backed by nothing...causing inflation and causing Americans to be poorer and poorer. What is worse..this printed money was LENT to local banks at interest. Imagine printing 100 dollar bill off of your computer and giving it to someone for 105 dollars??? See this means that AMericans will always have debt, as there is no way to repay. NO WAY. We are slaves...not to wall street..to the FED.

    And now w get to the second point... the NDAA. The government is in bed with the FED. It is run by the actual 1%. The NDAA ensures that if people try to stop the fed they will be arrested without trialfor life. Thats all its there for.

    Now I realize that the Occupy Movement means well..but its heart is in the wrong place.

    WAnt to save America? there is but one solution. As God is my witness it is the elimination of the FED. But to get there, we must first gain our rights to protest and be heard.. get rid of the NDAA.

    Solution? Local protests are minuscule and... really pointless. Im sry to say.

    Set a date for a protest in washington. Get one million people to capital hill to protest the ndaa and we may get it revoked. Then, and only afterwards we go after the fed.

    Either that or slavery. Cause shits not gonna change.

    But I advise you, if you thought Oakland was bad. Even if we were to go peacefully to washington to get the ndaa and fed..there is a good chance we will see how evil and deadly what we are facing in america rly is.

    my .02

    stay strong
  • Wombat February 2012 +1 -1
    If a child were to grow up like a fly on the wall in a generic corperate setting. To a family that was totally unaware of the alternate universe that their child was a privy to. It would only be a matter of time before the childs more predatory nature is quickly exploited and refined. Taking over the childs thought processes. making them do things they wouldnt normally do if they werent conditioned to behave and think otherwise. not unlike that of a caged dog that would sooner go for the throat of a baby (which rarely ever happens), if it were forced to choose between taking out the weaker species in order to appease its abuser(s) or incurring the wrath of the violent and disappointed owner.
    I would like to end this with a little side note:
    perhaps the only thing that is truly retained and perpetuated from our high school years and on; the only thing that seems to be prevalent in nearly any (monetary) institution and the animal kingdom alike, are probably the cliques and the bullying. If a wolf is disowned by a pack it often dies unless another pack adopts him.
    The first thing that should be addressed and nurtured in any developing mind is the attitude. before any politics can ever play an effective role in the actions and conscience of man, our attitudes have to change.
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