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Ethical Center Through Food Security
  • SeaSea January 2012 +1 -1 (+1 / -0 )
    I am thinking in terms of an Occupy strategy. I figure that whatever we accomplish here in the USA needs to be accomplished world-wide, and, that USA politics is too conservative to allow us to succeed here without world-wide support. I reason that only an ethical stance that is obvious universal and specific, can thus garner support. So, I figure us succeeding in getting the USA to talk about its "secret genocide", would establish ethical credentials, and lead to more support for my suggestion that the single most powerful step to resolve problems is to "simply", start feeding everyone.

    My suggestion is that Occupy can reform our world if its seen as ethically whole. To be ethically whole means to plan something that, when the world chooses to do it, everyone will be fed. All food can go from farmer/gatherer directly in to a distribution system, without middlemen speculators vendors and other hoarders. Occupy can muster the organization to make it work. International debt cancelation might be a step toward this. People nations and governments would still be free to fashion whatever type of society they wished. It would not follow that totalitarian food distribution would lead to other things that abridge freedom. Without even suggesting something as bold as this, China Russia India Brazil the Arabs the Christians the Muslims, etc, will not sign on, let alone the USA's gun owners and users.

    I think Occupiers agree that we need to tackle fundamental causes and solutions. Our slogan could be GREED NO, JOBS YES. This may sound simple or naive, especially applied to the enormous complexity of the world. Raw power seems to reconcile nations and peoples as divergent as Indigenous people, Congolese, Mongolians, Iranians, Spanish speakers, Indonesians, Animists, Atheists, etc, not to mention religious zealots. So a United Nations approach using power to enforce feeding everyone, mustn't be thought totalitarian. People want private property and are willing to accept equivocation, before they are willing to sign on to some all embracing plan. I was thinking that allowing real freedom for groups to do what they want, could result in a world we all want, if before anyone did anything, all were fed aliquot portions of food. This act alone might knock some sense in to everyone!
  • SeaSea January 2012 +1 -1
    I approach things from a feminist and womanist theoretical position which presumes that Marx's ideas have saturated the world even amongst the naysaying Republicans and Wall Streeter and religious conservatives, etc.

    And in this thread I'm trying show than ideas of ethics and morality are at the core of such considerations. Except that in our "postmodern" world people simply aren't willing to do the hard work of thinking more clearly.