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The Occupy movement will fail unless we fix big problems.
  • intelliberal November 2011 +1 -1 (+1 / -0 )
    Most of the public are against the Occupy movement, the police are more violent, and the whole thing will fall apart unless the leaders make some changes, and if they don't, then the protesters/campers need to take control of the situation.
    1. As many people as possible need to educate themselves about the Fed so they can talk to the public and the media. Intelligence is one of the biggest things that separates us from the Tea Party people, and we need the public to know that.
    The public needs to know:
    - the Fed is a private organization, and a severe danger to THEM, therefore they have excellent reasons to join the protesters/campers, or to support them in every way. That includes contacting local politicians and police departments and demanding that they treat protesters/campers with complete respect and courtesy.
    - the Fed deliberately created this Recession, which is going to hit them very hard, perhaps next year.
    - that this isn't something new - some of our greatest leaders have warned us about the Fed, including JFK.
    - that Bernanke is America's unelected President, and has more power, by virtue of the control of our economy, etc., than all three branches of Congress put together.
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    2. One of the biggest criticisms of the campers is that it's just an excuse for the homeless to have a place to camp. That outrageous arrogance should not be ignored. Be prepared to tell the public/media:
    - that the homeless have a basic human right to live in a safe place. How dare they say that dirt and grass are more important than human beings!
    - that the homeless are victims of the Fed, and that homelessness kills.
    - we are proud that the homeless have joined the movement, and that if they can fight back, the rest of America has no excuse for doing nothing.
    - that the wealthy have worked to keep the homeless victims of their greed invisible, to hide their crimes against our humanity. Therefore, we need to make them very visible, including homeless marches, etc. so the public can see that they're helping to victimize men, women, and children. They need to see them as human beings, not statistics, and demand that this insanity stop.
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    Agrees: MundusVultDecipi

  • intelliberal November 2011 +1 -1 (+0 / -1 )
    3. The public doesn't take the movement seriously because they see people dancing and having fun, as if they're just there to party.
    That is political suicide. There's a time and place for fun, but not when the public is watching, and trying to understand what the protesters want. Use your brains.

    Disagrees: MundusVultDecipi

  • MundusVultDecipiMundusVultDecipi November 2011 +1 -1
    A festive atmosphere is a welcoming one. We aren't just stuffy policy wonks, we celebrate minor victories and ' emit positive vibes' as cliche as that may sound.

    I really like this website though!
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